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what's up everybody happy

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freaking friday

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um we are going to

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cover some interesting things today

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um a pretty great article came out um

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featuring uh jacques valet

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yesterday on wired i put all that stuff

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in the description so we're gonna touch

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a little bit on him

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um and we're also going to touch on

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um jim semivent who did a piece with um

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stewart

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um on aliens and artists and just a

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podcast work he went over his uh

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experience

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from a while back and a little bit about

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the cia i think that's just part one out

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of a three-parter so

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um

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we'll talk about that just a little bit

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and then the soul conundrum of

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you know around nuclear stuff interest

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strategic stuff

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um so i found a very interesting piece

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um from the 1970s

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that we can look at and kind of you know

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put things today in the context of back

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and you know what were they saying about

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this stuff at that point is it similar

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to now is it different what's the deal

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um and we have some pretty great audio

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pieces that we'll play today

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uh one from 1949

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in new mexico

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and then another one

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in new mexico farmington new mexico

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with audio from the one frank scully in

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1950 which is very interesting

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excuse me

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so thanks for hanging with me um i got

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caught up

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down a little bit of a very interesting

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rabbit hole and i wasn't able to kind of

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get it to where i wanted it to be

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in order to talk about it today so

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hopefully i will be able to talk about

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that soon it's very very interesting

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very interesting

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it includes everything from

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project magnet if you're not familiar

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with that

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the canadian project wilbert smith

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a different project magnet that happened

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a lot of interesting stuff it's hard to

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hard to wrap up so that's why i couldn't

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really finish it off but

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in order to present it today but i will

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um you know present it uh

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soon enough

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so without further ado

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[Music]

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so

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you guys were able to

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uh check out that piece um about ballet

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um because it's pretty good it really

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just about everything that you really

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hope to go over in regards to to him in

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his career with this stuff it starts

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from his you know where it all started

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which was his own sighting

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it when he was in france and he he saw

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something

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which was pretty interesting in him and

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like a friend you know having fun and

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doing it and i was always kind of his

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own little explorer using telescopes as

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a kid and all that stuff

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so it's pretty interesting and it starts

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off actually talking about his

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connection with mr gary nolan

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and and how they discovered some

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um kind of i guess you could call it

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some type of metal

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um that came out of

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a different piece of unidentified metal

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piece of this puzzle

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was now sitting a few inches from a

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platzer's plate

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platter was like the witness who got the

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the metal originally the mystery valet

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said was where the material came from

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originally

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showed that it consisted mostly of iron

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with traces of carbon titanium and other

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basically a steel alloy scrambled to

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what looked like cast iron

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those wouldn't have gotten hot enough to

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melt and they would have cratered uh the

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ground nor for the same reasons could it

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be a meteorite there wasn't enough

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nickel for a meteorite anyways

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uh could a hoaxer have poured the metal

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in place unlikely valley said uh that

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would have required an industrial

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furnace plus some way of transporting

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so it's pretty interesting um you know

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you know i guess you can call them

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fragments like ufo fragments like how do

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uh analyze this stuff

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um so it gives you a good kind of peek

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in there for instance like

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you know something gary nolan said is

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that some of these stuff are just kind

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of like the same

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made of the same things as you know

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things were used to titanium you know

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iron steel alloy that kind of stuff so

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unknown well i guess it's the actual

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makeup of the chemicals and how it would

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be made and what it would be used for

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and if you're kind of left with the

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maybe we're getting somewhere

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you know for instance

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it burns hot enough to mount steel and

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wouldn't produce a crater you know

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but to create the cast iron-like

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material that plaster saw before him the

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perpetrator would have to douse the

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puddle in water and the water would have

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frozen and there is no ice on the scene

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so they're not just taking this stuff

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going oh this is an unidentified

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material because someone said it came

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from something you know they're actually

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going through the thought process as

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well as the chemical analysis which

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which is great so that was a great read

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let me take a quick second to say what's

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up to everybody um what we have shelley

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liona what's up dieselgirl

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uh deborah awesome nice to see you i'm

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jesse peak what's up

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it's a friday show

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we're really killing it this week this

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uh michael antos what's up steve k

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what's up

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subscribe if you haven't share this with

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so yeah without further ado

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um let's get into some interesting

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paperwork that i found from down under

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what's that about right so

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i have done uh definitely some research

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uh other countries

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what's up disclosure team vinnie awesome

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can't wait to see that guy

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back doing his thing he's down in

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interesting because in this wired story

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connect the dots of uh where a heineken

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valet kind of got together right like

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wrote you know a pretty great book

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um but he didn't want to publish that he

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cool guy cool dude

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um but he was you know more or less you

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know right-hand man for heineken and a a

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piece that stood out to me in that

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discussing their ibm computer process to

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find different patterns and all the

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different sightings which they put in a

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bunch of blue book files and they also

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put in thousands of um you know cases

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you know it was pretty awesome to see

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that in print because i've been hanging

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on to these and i've showed them before

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if you guys follow me enough you may

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have seen them

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but i haven't really had like a nice

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interesting article where we find dr

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and one dr dugan

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collecting ufo reports around the world

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and this letter is

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australia

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it's pretty interesting

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let me go full screen see if that makes

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be nice if we could get it to be a

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but i'm also not going to worry too much

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what does it say

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well you can read pretty well i would

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assume so we have

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northwestern university november 16 1966

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which is pretty interesting date

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um it's only a couple months after

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heineck writes to whom it may concern

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dr m duggan is collecting information on

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and is a part of an international effort

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to collate information on this

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for many years i have acted as a

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scientific monitor

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on this scientifically vaccine problem

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of ufos

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and a number of colleagues and i have

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agreed to act as a clearing house

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for the investigation of which dr dugan

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very interesting

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um actually is from us he i think he's

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um he is a whoa what is that he is a

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very interesting character

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dr dugan actually did stuff for the air

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force

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up until i think until he passed away in

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interest interesting when he did pass

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away um

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there's kind of like you know how people

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leave

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like comments and stuff like on

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you know a funeral or online or

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something like that about the about the

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person who passes away so dr dugan had

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passed away

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and people were

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you know saying nice things about him

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and everything one of the

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people that said something about him

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um you know what i forgot his name but

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he was uh that

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that guy that's mentioned with tom

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delong and in the emails and all that

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kind of stuff i forget what his name was

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but he's a pretty big deal so this is dr

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michael dugan

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um unfortunately he's no longer with us

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but you can see he was with the air

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force

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member of the scientific and

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professional

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a senior scientist

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senior scientist space vehicles director

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at air force research laboratory

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clinton air force base new mexico

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interesting

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right

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i mean come on this this is uh

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definitely

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uh interesting stuff and i can't get

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much from anybody on

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uh dr dugan unfortunately

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um

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[Music]

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as far as like other people have heard

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so

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you know i guess it kind of is what it

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is but you put the two pieces together

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here it is again dr duke and collecting

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information on ufos and is part of an

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international effort

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collate information on this phenomenon

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with dr heineck as they act as a

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clearinghouse for the investigation

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which dr dugan is a part

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this is 1966 and in 2014 we have with

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the air force directorate of space

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vehicles

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pretty interesting

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but that's not all

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as we move on

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we find it that mr dugan wrote a

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letter

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to the same air force

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the australian air force

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which talks about pretty much the

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same things more or less i'm going to do

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my best to read this although it's in

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cursive which is a very beautiful way to

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write

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you know

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people have

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may not be the easiest so on december

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20th 1966 um

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cicero basically

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um is another like australian outfit

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that did actually look wind up looking

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at some ufo cases for the australian air

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force

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interestingly

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so he writes dear squadron leader baxter

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please excuse this handwritten letter

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but i wanted to

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um

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i think quit the evening mail and may

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not have it done so had i

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this is going to be like pulling teeth

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had i waited for the

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i don't know

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i would like to add a few details uh to

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today's telephone conversation dr valee

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an astronomer at the university of

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chicago and professor

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j ellen heineck whom i saw in chicago a

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few days ago

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are very interested in the ufo

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phenomenon

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from the point of view of a scientific

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investigation so am i and so are many

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other scientists in other countries

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these gentlemen have carefully

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documented files on many

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um

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i don't know what that says about 6 000

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sightings in many different countries

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many of those sightings are

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doubtful but they are a large number in

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which it has

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[Music]

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not so far been possible to explain in

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terms of natural phenomena

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there are the cases of

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interest dr valet has

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at his disposal a computer program

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for information operation answering

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which

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was originally developed for stellar

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astronomy

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he has asked dr oh

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i don't know what that says

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doctor o found something in brazil

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professor

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something in france myself and several

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others

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and let me

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change the page here um in several

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countries to collect data on sightings

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and where possible

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um those were originated in the report

417
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in order to determine

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reliability and so wait for you know

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blah blah you can read the rest

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well can you i don't know but

421
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um i'm going to skip through this

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just to

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so i'm not like blabbering through this

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stuff so wait for features

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satisfied analysis

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um

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this information will be coded so that

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it can be

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i don't know yeah i punched on ibm cards

430
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later

431
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and fed into a magnetic library tape

432
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yeah pretty interesting

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present investigations have indicated

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the existence of a certain pattern in

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this phenomenon

436
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but unfortunately much more data is

437
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something can be placed

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so

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i'll wind up putting these online

440
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i'll skip to this last page

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uh dr heineck and few scientific advisor

442
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on ufos to the u.s air force i'm

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enclosing a letter

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from him to substantiate my request

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and i think we probably just saw that

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letter from dr heineck

447
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it's a scientific investigation

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although my intent is

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extracurricular

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i feel that it is very necessary to

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subject those explained phenomena to

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so i think that's pretty interesting

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so we have valet heinek dr dugan

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somebody in brazil somebody in france

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and they're collecting all these ufo

456
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reports around the world this is 1966

457
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heineken is with blue book

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right and they couldn't

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investigate

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ufo reports so to speak in other parts

461
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of the country

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so this is a secret investigation

463
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:02,159
aka invisible college

464
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:03,679
that they're doing with these ufo

465
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:05,360
reports and putting them in this ibm

466
00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:07,039
punch card system

467
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the same one that's mentioned in that

468
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dr dugan winds up being with the air

469
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:17,440
force being the space director of space

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scientific director of space vehicles

471
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is it just me or is that pretty

472
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what i'd like to know is

473
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the patterns that they mentioned in

474
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there they were able to find some

475
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i would love to find what those patterns

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are

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because i don't know if it's just me but

478
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so there's all sorts of data out there

479
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you know we ask for data and everything

480
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and there's there's data out there that

481
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which sucks

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so it'd be great if we could be privy to

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it

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um

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but you know

486
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maybe that will be in the future at some

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but again

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pretty interesting um

489
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pretty interesting stuff i would i would

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love to hear people actually care and

491
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talk about this because i don't

492
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think that people do again this guy

493
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dr michael dugan

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member of the scientific and

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professional cadre of senior executives

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is senior scientist space vehicles

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directorate air force research

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laboratory

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kirkland air force base new mexico

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he generates new concepts and aids in

501
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developing leading edge technologies for

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space based surveillance and other

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military applications

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leads and conducts

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concept development analysis

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so

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1966

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dr dugan

509
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collating ufo reports around the country

510
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with the help of different scientists

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around the country one of which is

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brazil which i think at that time in

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1966 or 1907 67 in brazil

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there's a pretty interesting case going

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does anybody know what case that was

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i wonder if you know what that was

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does anyone know what it is

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because it's pretty interesting

519
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:57,350
well

520
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i can't remember that i can't remember

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the uh the town's name anyway so

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there yeah i don't know

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oh here we go

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so i believe

525
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the other doctor that was mentioned in

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is in this

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breakdown of chemical analysis of

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something that they found in brazil

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interesting

530
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:49,750
so

531
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is happens here

532
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this composition analysis

533
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introduction the material that is here

534
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:07,520
referred to as brazil magnesium has an

535
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,919
important place in ufo research it was

536
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,679
the only material specimen investigated

537
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by the colorado project which we know

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00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,000
what that is we're at the university of

539
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:19,200
colorado the condon report

540
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:22,960
fragment from a flying disk interesting

541
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:25,120
another thing that they wrote about in

542
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,240
this article about mr valet was how he

543
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,880
watched dr condon fall asleep

544
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:32,640
um

545
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:35,840
while watching high neck talk apparently

546
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:44,470
interesting stuff and i learned some

547
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,240
another uh pretty interesting thing

548
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:48,159
about condon and it was about like a

549
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,720
security clearance that he had um maybe

550
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,640
it was in the 40s or 50s and it got

551
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taken away

552
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:56,080
uh because he was pretty much a crappy

553
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,159
scientist um it wound up being

554
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:00,400
reinstilled or reinstated

555
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take a breath

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00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,480
so that's a lot i hope you guys enjoyed

557
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,799
that little bit of research that i have

558
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done

559
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:17,440
and was able to share with you guys

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right now what we will do

561
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is we will

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00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,279
change it up

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say hi to the newcomers jason bay what's

564
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,960
up don't worry you can always go back

565
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:30,640
and check it out

566
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,440
jenny novak what's up thanks for coming

567
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,679
um village attacks

568
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:38,159
that's what i was thinking but that may

569
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,520
not be right i don't know i should

570
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:41,679
probably look into that

571
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,390
i appreciate everybody showing up that i

572
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:48,480
haven't said hi to yet bill what's up

573
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,520
diesel girl what's up benji what's up

574
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:53,760
appreciate everybody hanging out

575
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,360
um and everybody else is still here

576
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:59,200
thank you for being here what we're

577
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:00,799
going to do now

578
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,230
i can take a break from reading so much

579
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:12,310
and we can play it those audio testimony

580
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,840
clips

581
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:15,760
one from 1949

582
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,559
and one from 1950.

583
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:20,080
one was

584
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,279
one i saw in 1949 in august

585
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,919
in las cruces from my backyard

586
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:27,919
on that particular evening my wife and

587
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:29,840
her mother and i were

588
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:31,840
enjoying the cool air

589
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:32,720
and

590
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:35,919
i was mine the beautiful transparent

591
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:38,640
sky with the stars and i happened to be

592
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,600
looking overhead and suddenly i spied a

593
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,080
strange

594
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,799
group of lights moving and i said uh

595
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,159
look

596
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:50,240
and they thought immediately

597
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,200
and

598
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:53,120
then i would say they were visible for

599
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,200
about three seconds of time

600
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,840
uh and uh they uh disappeared at a

601
00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:59,840
height of about 35 degrees above the

602
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:01,919
south southeastern horizon

603
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,960
uh no sound and uh

604
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,039
they seem to kind of pale out the

605
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,679
rectangles of feeble light seem to

606
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,919
foreshorten into slits

607
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,720
and

608
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,960
i've never seen a rocket before since

609
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:16,960
and i'm very much puzzled as to what

610
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:26,389
the greatest exhibition of magnetic

611
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,440
flight

612
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,080
that has ever happened

613
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:31,840
in this universe

614
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:35,279
insofar as we know came on the second

615
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:36,640
day

616
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,760
of the

617
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:38,880
memorable

618
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:41,520
day at farmington new mexico

619
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,720
when there

620
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:45,039
the sky was filled

621
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,840
with flying saucers the editor of the

622
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:49,200
local paper

623
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:50,799
selected some

624
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,399
dozen reliable businessmen of that city

625
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:56,399
and on the second day

626
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:57,760
hoping

627
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:00,720
for the return of the visitors of the

628
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:03,760
previous day were amazed

629
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:06,960
when suddenly at 11 a.m in the morning

630
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:09,919
the sky was again filled

631
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,279
with these strange circular visitors

632
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,679
from another world

633
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,960
these just

634
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,480
calm

635
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,120
although accepted

636
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,039
beyond anything

637
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,360
that had ever happened to them

638
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:26,880
undertook

639
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:29,440
to estimate and count

640
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,559
the ships that swarmed the air

641
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,720
for nearly an hour

642
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:36,640
that day

643
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,760
and they reported that

644
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:41,679
in digestion

645
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:46,000
there was between four and five hundred

646
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,120
ships

647
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,360
that had flown

648
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,880
into

649
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:52,559
the vision

650
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:55,679
of the people of that northern new

651
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:56,840
mexico

652
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:00,799
town from another planet

653
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,310
very interesting i don't know do you buy

654
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,039
it four or five hundred ships

655
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:19,830
and he kind of sounded drunk didn't he

656
00:29:27,730 --> 00:29:24,549
506 000

657
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:29,830
[Laughter]

658
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:32,559
i'm not sure i don't know but a pretty

659
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,200
interesting case um

660
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:37,520
that i haven't come across yet

661
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:40,720
farmington new mexico so i will have to

662
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,399
look into that check out the blue book

663
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,480
file see what we got see if there's

664
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,240
anything in there

665
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:49,039
because that is amazing so there's

666
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:50,960
actually another

667
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,480
recording where

668
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,960
there's a doctor

669
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,360
i'm talking about it it's about four

670
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,600
minutes long

671
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:01,679
and he calls them

672
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,830
space spider webs i think is what he

673
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:09,679
calls them

674
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:12,640
which you know i think is um you know in

675
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:16,480
ufology what they call him is uh

676
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,789
so here is a

677
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,799
link i just put it in the chat here for

678
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,640
you a link to

679
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:31,990
papers that i just pulled up the

680
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,240
the papers so if anyone is feeling extra

681
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,200
motivated you could type that out so

682
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:41,200
it's easier to read for people

683
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,320
but

684
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,520
you know you don't have to either just

685
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:48,480
just a suggestion

686
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:51,520
if anyone is bored

687
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,200
because the cursive is not the easiest

688
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,200
to read but it is

689
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,960
again

690
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:00,159
beautiful

691
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:06,880
getting into now i guess we can segue

692
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,750
um well the next thing i can talk about

693
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:16,159
here is um

694
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,950
um aliens and artists with uh stewart so

695
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,039
jim semivin talked for a little bit over

696
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,200
an hour about his experience

697
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:31,200
again i put that link in the description

698
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,559
so you should check it out for yourself

699
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:34,480
but it's it's very interesting i mean he

700
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:35,679
was very

701
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,000
he's very high up in the cia and

702
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:39,840
remember you guys know john ramirez he

703
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,919
was as well they touched on their

704
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,519
relationship a little bit within the

705
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:44,880
agency but

706
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,640
um his experiences is intense

707
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,080
you know

708
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:52,000
um

709
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:56,720
[Music]

710
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,440
there's still some internal friction on

711
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:01,519
what to make of it

712
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,039
you know he talks about a little bit

713
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,519
about how he doesn't want to reveal too

714
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,760
much yet because

715
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,080
i guess there's still some work going on

716
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,760
with it to figure out exactly what

717
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:13,200
happened and he did mention the

718
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,509
it was a classic

719
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,559
not

720
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:23,120
classic but some aspects of it were like

721
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:25,600
a classic abduction case

722
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:29,600
um he i think he it was

723
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:32,000
in his room at the end of his i might be

724
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,679
quoting this wrong but him and his wife

725
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:34,880
were there

726
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:38,000
um it wasn't like a typical gray looking

727
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:38,960
thing

728
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:42,480
he remembered

729
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:44,320
um

730
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,399
you know it looking like that at least

731
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:48,880
and column keller from skinwalker ranch

732
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,430
so it's very interesting he talked about

733
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,760
like maybe an implant i think it was uh

734
00:33:02,950 --> 00:32:59,519
coming from his wife although his wife

735
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:02,960
doesn't remember that um that event

736
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:05,440
which is pretty interesting

737
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:06,480
um

738
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,360
he seems like he's being pretty honest

739
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,679
and sincere because you know it's clear

740
00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:13,679
that he is pretty conflicted about about

741
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,279
the situation

742
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:17,919
um he talks about his time in in

743
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:21,360
inside the cia and how the ci a treats

744
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,240
their employees as far as

745
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:26,159
you know if you were to bring this up to

746
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:28,480
somebody there how would they treat them

747
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,519
um so it's really interesting uh in good

748
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,440
piece and when you have somebody like

749
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:36,080
jim semivan talking about

750
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:37,039
his

751
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:46,799
experience with non-human entities

752
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,549
you know what is that about

753
00:34:05,430 --> 00:33:57,669
you know

754
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:05,440
are

755
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:10,480
existence of something or not but it it

756
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:11,679
does add

757
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,310
um you know

758
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:21,520
non-human entities of being in existence

759
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,560
now going back to jacques valet what are

760
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:27,440
they are they extra stress real well he

761
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,280
would tell you that probably not

762
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,399
there's some sort of um

763
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:36,800
you know thing going on where whatever

764
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,040
this is kind of

765
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:42,240
either wants you to believe that

766
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:44,320
or you know

767
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:46,879
shows you

768
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:51,510
or what it wants to be

769
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:57,670
i don't know it's it's pretty

770
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,630
part of that jacques valley article

771
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:04,320
today you know the headline was he still

772
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,190
and when going over what we went over

773
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,920
today with those papers and and just

774
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,359
i think uh

775
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:17,839
dugan said 6 000

776
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:20,320
reports in that ibm system or whatever

777
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,710
and they put it into a pattern finding

778
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:28,560
ibm system

779
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,079
apparently we're able to start to pick

780
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:31,760
up on some patterns but that's kind of

781
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:33,119
where it left and he still doesn't know

782
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:39,430
you know even after all this time he's

783
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:43,119
not able to even say that they're uh

784
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,170
you know an illusion

785
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,880
[Music]

786
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,119
or not real

787
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:51,040
or spaceships

788
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:55,589
you know

789
00:36:02,950 --> 00:35:59,599
or demons or angels

790
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:02,960
and you know maybe it's just me but

791
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,839
dr vale seems like a incredibly smart

792
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:07,119
person

793
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,880
i mean

794
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:10,000
he

795
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:18,470
you know in that article it discusses

796
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,520
how he

797
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:21,440
you know was pretty much responsible for

798
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,640
the

799
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:24,880
prototype or i forget what it was called

800
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:27,440
but um a system of the internet before

801
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,349
brilliant person

802
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,430
on the one hand i can get kind of

803
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,040
distressed about it like well if he

804
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:39,599
can't figure this out like what look

805
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,150
you know

806
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,800
i'm not even a college graduate

807
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:48,480
and i'm looking at this stuff what am i

808
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,990
that can be depressing

809
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:01,670
but maybe

810
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:10,150
valet maybe it's not about an end point

811
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:13,680
or figuring it out but it's like growing

812
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,670
you know look at everything you can

813
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:21,839
digest it all

814
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,640
grow your thought process

815
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:26,160
and as you look at all these different

816
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:27,839
things all these different aspects of

817
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:31,920
the phenomenon you know your perspective

818
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:35,200
starts to sharpen

819
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:41,349
at least an image is starting to

820
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:52,390
you know josh says something um

821
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:54,160
pretty interesting you know we have to

822
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:56,800
be prepared to take that as an outcome

823
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,109
extraterrestrials interdimensional some

824
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:05,119
illusions all that stuff

825
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:12,790
why because we just don't know

826
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:15,280
we don't have us at least

827
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:18,160
don't have a spaceship or an alien body

828
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:19,440
or

829
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,599
look at and test and see you know what

830
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:25,119
it does or

831
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,400
you know we don't have a

832
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:28,480
interdimensional phone that we can pick

833
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,160
up and and call

834
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,720
our peeps over in a different you know

835
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,400
sixth dimension and say hey what's up

836
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,480
how's the weather do you guys eat pizza

837
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,240
there you know

838
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,680
um

839
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:41,599
we don't have that ability

840
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,000
we just have a bunch of people myself

841
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,960
included that have had wild uh

842
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:49,040
experiences in different ways and of

843
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:57,510
radar radar tracks

844
00:39:02,470 --> 00:38:58,800
um

845
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:02,480
professional

846
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:08,310
you know enough of them to you know be

847
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,839
able to say that okay this just isn't

848
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:13,599
in my head there's actually something

849
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,390
i put something on on twitter today

850
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,000
that i thought was actually pretty good

851
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:26,079
after i looked at it and

852
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,280
kind of reminds me of

853
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:32,320
uh you know if you ever had like a maybe

854
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:34,400
a crummy pc

855
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,280
laptop like you know a 300 one or

856
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,760
something that you get just to do basic

857
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,480
stuff on in and

858
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,880
maybe after a certain amount of time you

859
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:46,800
can tell that there's

860
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,880
too many cookies or maybe a virus got in

861
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,119
there and the computer still works but

862
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:53,599
it's just really buggy

863
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:54,839
and it's

864
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,520
frustrating some days it takes forever

865
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,760
some days it's fast

866
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,520
some days

867
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,520
you know your keys don't work that kind

868
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:06,079
of reminds me of

869
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:19,030
so

870
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:20,950
it's um

871
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:27,829
it's not easy to figure anything out so

872
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:30,079
i think the best thing you can do if

873
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,599
you're trying to figure something out or

874
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,280
at least

875
00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:36,000
steer a ship through this phenomenon and

876
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:38,079
through these experiences

877
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:40,480
you know trying to

878
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,040
you know keep it as straight as possible

879
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,200
while still

880
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:47,359
listening and accepting the information

881
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,710
you know

882
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,630
um take everything seriously but hold it

883
00:41:03,349 --> 00:40:59,119
lightly like dr shawn espjorn hargan

884
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:07,910
i think that's perfect

885
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,200
um

886
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:10,160
[Music]

887
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,230
i don't know that we'll ever get to a

888
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,640
point to where we can't figure anything

889
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,960
like that out until we can get to a

890
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:23,200
point where we better understand not

891
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,150
all right there's still so much petty

892
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:35,040
stuff that happens between interpersonal

893
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,640
relationships whether it be on twitter

894
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:41,670
to the point where you know both parties

895
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,800
can't

896
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,480
fathom

897
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,800
that they have to

898
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:49,359
change our behavior in a certain way to

899
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,400
avoid

900
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,560
unnecessary and meaningless conflicts

901
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:54,880
like that

902
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:57,440
and if we can't do that how

903
00:42:01,829 --> 00:42:00,000
are you going to understand

904
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:01,839
you can get close to understanding

905
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:08,069
i mean on top of that like

906
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,950
you know i

907
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,800
a lot of people are thinking about

908
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,359
remedial boring

909
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,920
everyday stressful stuff

910
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:24,160
you know and it's a habit that we need

911
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,200
to break

912
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:26,720
somehow to think about the bigger

913
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:27,599
picture

914
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,319
but

915
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,920
you know maybe we're also not meant to

916
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,040
know

917
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:34,240
that's something i think about as well

918
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:40,870
maybe some things are supposed to be

919
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,359
mysteries

920
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:45,040
especially if this has been going on

921
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:52,309
you know

922
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:54,150
maybe some things are just meant to be

923
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,599
unknowns but does that mean

924
00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,200
that we have to spend our time figuring

925
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,640
it out anyways i don't know

926
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,640
i'm glad there's people doing it though

927
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,400
like valet that are a hell of a lot

928
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:08,160
smarter than me

929
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,839
i hope one day i get to talk to him i

930
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:13,680
tried uh emailing him for for an

931
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,349
nothing

932
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:20,550
but you know it's it's kind of

933
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,760
surprising when i think about it

934
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:23,280
sometimes the people that actually say

935
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:26,800
yes to doing an interview just because

936
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:29,040
it's you know like in the whole scope of

937
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:34,710
you know they have a lot of stuff to do

938
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:37,599
and on their plate rather than

939
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,359
you know doing a dinky podcast like this

940
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,440
so

941
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:45,839
i understand

942
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,520
you know like louis alexander coming

943
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:51,680
here senator harry reid i can't believe

944
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:54,880
those people do that

945
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,599
you know i was on the go to cnn or

946
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,520
tucker or elson or whatever

947
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:01,760
and reach that many people like that but

948
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,760
he still takes the time to to come here

949
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:06,960
talk with me

950
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,880
you know make no bones about it

951
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,960
i don't think i deserve that or that he

952
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,200
should or if he didn't that's wrong or

953
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,200
whatever like

954
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:18,640
i think it's

955
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,560
pretty cool and i'm super grateful to

956
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,400
to be able to be in a position to have

957
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:26,800
them so

958
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:33,589
rambling a little bit

959
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:35,359
so

960
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,040
and i did have it to finish on that i

961
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,200
had a dream neither the other well i

962
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,119
have a lot of dreams but

963
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:43,599
i talk in my sleep like uh

964
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,069
which probably isn't good but

965
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,319
um

966
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,079
you know sometimes i record what i say

967
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,480
in my sleep like i have this app

968
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:58,880
on my phone that will activate when you

969
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,680
start

970
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:01,359
snoring is what it's supposed to be but

971
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:02,160
i

972
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,400
and the other day

973
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:12,079
and some weird stuff comes out that just

974
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,200
you know sometimes makes me really um

975
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,280
think sometimes it's just

976
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,119
makes no sense

977
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,599
sometimes it's funny

978
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:23,119
and

979
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:25,040
like i said yeah sometimes it makes you

980
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,960
think so

981
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,720
one of the things

982
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,040
that i said in my sleep that i recorded

983
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:32,960
a few nights ago i said um

984
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:43,430
no one or the answer is in no one

985
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:44,829
that's

986
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:48,560
interesting the answer is in no one

987
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,079
you know and i could take that and think

988
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:52,000
about it forever it's

989
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:54,079
you know probably not worth it

990
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,359
more than thinking about it and

991
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:57,920
contemplating it for a second but

992
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:00,160
because you know the next night i

993
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:01,760
probably said something really stupid

994
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,410
and funny

995
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,560
[Laughter]

996
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,920
so what does any of that mean i don't

997
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,680
know i think there's a lot to dreams and

998
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,680
i think you can really connect a lot uh

999
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,680
through things in your dreams and so

1000
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,440
that's why some of that stuff stays with

1001
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,119
me

1002
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:19,190
it was

1003
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:20,960
last year

1004
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:23,119
i forget what the date was and i can

1005
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,560
have someone vouch for me for this

1006
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,390
it was a few weeks prior to when jeremy

1007
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:33,359
corbell released his um

1008
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,400
video with the pyramids right

1009
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:38,960
and one thing i said in my sleep

1010
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:41,839
i kid you not the only thing i said

1011
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,200
was march 15th

1012
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,680
a couple weeks go by march 15th comes

1013
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:49,280
and that video is released and that

1014
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,960
story

1015
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:53,119
that's a little vague

1016
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,240
i guess but just uh considering what i'm

1017
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:58,319
like paying attention to and watching at

1018
00:47:02,630 --> 00:46:59,520
the time and

1019
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,640
you know the life and i find myself in

1020
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,119
and to say just march 15th and on that

1021
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:07,040
day that video comes out and that story

1022
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:08,240
breaks

1023
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:13,829
it's a little weird i think

1024
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:22,150
you know too crazy probably not but

1025
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,349
interesting

1026
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:29,040
so

1027
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:33,440
really touch on the nuclear stuff but

1028
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:36,640
the the nuclear stuff is so switching to

1029
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:39,440
the nuclear aspect of ufos is pretty

1030
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,559
interesting to me um

1031
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,119
because we know and i've gone over

1032
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:47,599
documents like this you know since

1033
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:50,720
uh the 50s early 50s or whatever late

1034
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,240
40s where they're talking about ufos

1035
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:56,720
seen over strategic um

1036
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,200
you know bases or assets and

1037
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:01,920
atomic installations you know so

1038
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:03,040
we know

1039
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,390
but i always just think about um

1040
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,960
like why

1041
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:14,800
obviously that's what people think about

1042
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:19,040
but they have mr robert salas talk about

1043
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,280
the mouse from incident where

1044
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,839
um ufos came in and turned up the

1045
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:26,400
communication systems for

1046
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,440
the nuclear weapons so that if they

1047
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:32,079
you know they wanted to launch them they

1048
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,839
could

1049
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,280
not you know there's a story of that

1050
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:37,200
happening in russia and what kind of

1051
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,319
spawn today is my thought of

1052
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:42,480
if that's the only time that that's

1053
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,559
recorded as happening where the

1054
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:46,800
communications are turned off so

1055
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,790
is it fair that people who try to push

1056
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:55,040
this into the mainstream

1057
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:56,400
um

1058
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:00,240
you know use that as an example of why

1059
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,680
it should be

1060
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,040
you know

1061
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:05,359
more in the forefront

1062
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:07,839
especially when they're unidentified

1063
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,069
that was my question no

1064
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:19,670
a lot of people trained in on twitter

1065
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,880
with different things and different

1066
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:22,319
opinions and

1067
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:23,760
um

1068
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,280
some people seem to think that it's

1069
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:27,599
happened a lot more often i don't know

1070
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,920
of those occasions but that could have

1071
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:31,520
been um a couple of good points were

1072
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,480
made of

1073
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,040
as far as

1074
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:37,119
you know

1075
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:39,040
what are the chances

1076
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,800
that we'd even know that if it happened

1077
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,559
again you know are they gonna come out

1078
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,480
with that

1079
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,839
you know whether it be the air force or

1080
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,920
whoever or other witness is going to

1081
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:50,160
come up out and say something like like

1082
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,599
that happening

1083
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:53,920
you know we just don't know

1084
00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,710
you know i i don't doubt that that

1085
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,480
situation happened at all and that's not

1086
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,240
what i you know so i don't get the wrong

1087
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,640
idea i'm just uh wondering if it's

1088
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,880
happened in any other instances and if

1089
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,319
so where

1090
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:12,720
uh because people seem to use that event

1091
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,319
a lot to get the word out about ufos so

1092
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,280
i'm just curious

1093
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:21,119
we do know however

1094
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:23,200
um that they're seen around nuclear

1095
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,839
reactors

1096
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,480
um

1097
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,640
you know our navy ships which you know

1098
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:30,960
pretty much everyone is is

1099
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,510
if it's not

1100
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,599
[Music]

1101
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,920
i think has nuclear capabilities i think

1102
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,520
um it was

1103
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,520
somebody who would know

1104
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:41,359
that i know

1105
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,880
told me that pretty much every navy

1106
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:44,079
vessel

1107
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,040
has

1108
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:48,400
the ability to carry a nuclear

1109
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:49,680
bomb

1110
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:53,589
and

1111
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:56,880
you know those get uh

1112
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,480
kind of hit a lot with uh ufo sightings

1113
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:02,160
and we've touched on a couple here on

1114
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,200
the show

1115
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,690
but the last thing i wanted to

1116
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,960
[Music]

1117
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,079
show

1118
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:13,920
is

1119
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:22,240
a new york times the new york times

1120
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:37,270
uf ufo vows the untold story

1121
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:39,589
it's pretty interesting because

1122
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:43,040
here they are the new york times

1123
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:44,720
i'm not familiar with

1124
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:49,040
the new york times magazine and um

1125
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,960
you know if that stuff was also in the

1126
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:52,880
paper or if this was a separate thing

1127
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:56,000
i'm not sure unfortunately

1128
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,960
but

1129
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,400
it had to be somewhat popular as the new

1130
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,800
york times

1131
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:03,440
another kind of a synchronicity i guess

1132
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:04,640
you could say

1133
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,119
is it's written by patrick hughes

1134
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,520
patrick hughes is one of the witnesses

1135
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:11,119
of uh one of the

1136
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:12,640
navy sightings he was in the princeton

1137
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,510
so but i wanted to go over this because

1138
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:18,960
it's pretty interesting and i'm just

1139
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:19,760
gonna

1140
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:24,480
read from it here

1141
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:27,839
we have the uh though officials uh have

1142
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:29,920
long denied that they take flag saucers

1143
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:32,000
seriously declassified documents now

1144
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,480
reveal extensive government concern over

1145
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:36,400
the phenomenon

1146
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:38,319
the defense department message bears the

1147
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,319
classification confidential subject

1148
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:43,359
suspicious unknown air activity debated

1149
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:47,200
dated november 11 1975.

1150
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,920
it reads uh the 28th of october 1973

1151
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:52,160
numerous reports of suspicious objects

1152
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,359
have been received at the norad

1153
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,599
coc north american defense combat

1154
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:00,000
operations center reliable military

1155
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,000
personnel at loring air force base which

1156
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:04,800
is a maine awards from port smith air

1157
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:07,920
force base michigan maelstrom uh montana

1158
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:11,200
uh middle north dakota and canadian

1159
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:13,200
forces station falcon bridge ontario

1160
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:15,920
canada have visually cited suspicious

1161
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,400
objects

1162
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:19,920
you know it's funny because we usually

1163
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,960
only hear robert sells some house from

1164
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,559
so we have objects that loring and

1165
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,160
wordsmith were characterized to be

1166
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,319
helicopters missile site personnel

1167
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:30,319
security alert teams and air defense

1168
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:33,040
personnel at maelstrom montana reported

1169
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:34,960
a object which sounded like a jet

1170
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,400
aircraft faa advised there were no jet

1171
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:40,640
aircraft in the vicinity

1172
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,319
mouse from search and height finder

1173
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:44,400
radars carried the object between nine

1174
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:46,240
thousand and fifteen thousand six

1175
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,750
that seemed incredibly slow f106

1176
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,079
scrambled from maelstrom could not make

1177
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:57,920
contact due to the darkness and low

1178
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,040
altitude

1179
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,119
uh site personnel reported the objects

1180
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:03,200
as low as 200 feet

1181
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,559
and

1182
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:06,720
oh man that stinks

1183
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:09,599
it's like cut off there

1184
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:12,480
so i'll just have to go to the top

1185
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:14,800
i have expressed my concern to

1186
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:18,160
um s-a-f-o-i air force information

1187
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:19,040
office

1188
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,920
um that we come up soonest with a

1189
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:23,920
proposed answer to queries from the

1190
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:25,599
press to prevent overreaction by the

1191
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,920
public to reports by the media that may

1192
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,520
be blown out of proportion how can you

1193
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,880
blow something like that out of

1194
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,359
proportion i don't think it's possible

1195
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,520
by the way

1196
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:37,359
um to date efforts by air guard

1197
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,000
helicopters uh and strategic air command

1198
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,040
helicopters in norway f-106s have failed

1199
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,920
to produce positive id

1200
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,839
numerous daily updates kept the joint

1201
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:49,280
chiefs of staff informed of these

1202
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,240
incursions by ufos in the fall of 1975

1203
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:54,000
representatives of the defense

1204
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,280
intelligence agency and the nsa as well

1205
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,599
as a handful of other government desks

1206
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,440
received copies of the national military

1207
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,040
command center's reports on the

1208
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:05,520
incidents one report said that a

1209
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:07,760
unidentified object demonstrated a clear

1210
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,240
intent in the weapons storage area

1211
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:14,319
though air force records show that the

1212
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:16,720
cia was notified several times of these

1213
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:19,680
penetrations over nuclear missile and

1214
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:22,880
bomber bases the agency has acknowledged

1215
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,520
only one such notification

1216
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:27,359
subsequent investigations by the air

1217
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,079
force into the sightings at loring air

1218
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:32,240
force base maine where the remarkable

1219
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:36,640
series of events began did not reveal

1220
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,760
it's cut off

1221
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,599
blame the cia for that by the way it's

1222
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:42,960
found in their foia reading room

1223
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:44,799
despite official pronouncements for

1224
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:47,040
decades that ufos were nothing more than

1225
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:50,240
misidentified aerial objects and as

1226
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,880
such were no cause for alarm recently

1227
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,960
declassified ufo records from the cia

1228
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,880
and fbi and other federal agencies

1229
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,480
indicate

1230
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,400
that ever since ufos made their

1231
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,680
appearance in our skies in the 1940s the

1232
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,760
phenomenon has aroused much serious

1233
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,760
behind-the-scenes concern in official

1234
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,160
circles

1235
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,400
details of the intelligence community's

1236
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,040
protracted obsession with the subject of

1237
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,680
ufos have emerged over the past few

1238
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:19,760
years with the release of the long

1239
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:21,440
without government records obtained

1240
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,480
through the freedom of information act

1241
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:26,400
though these papers failed to resolve

1242
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:29,599
the ufo enigma they do manage to dispel

1243
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:32,319
many popular notions about ufo

1244
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:35,440
controversy as well as give substance to

1245
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,319
a number of others

1246
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:41,040
official records now available

1247
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,720
appear to put

1248
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:45,119
to rest doubts that the government knew

1249
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,839
more about ufos than it had claimed over

1250
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,680
the past 32 years

1251
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,280
from the start it has been convinced

1252
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:52,960
that the most ufo sightings that could

1253
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,200
be explained in terms of misidentif

1254
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:57,599
misidentified balloons cloud formations

1255
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,359
airplanes ball lightning meteors and

1256
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,160
other natural phenomena

1257
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:03,599
but the papers also show that the

1258
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:05,839
government remains perplexed about the

1259
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,400
nagging residue of unexplained ufo

1260
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:10,799
sightings which amount to approximately

1261
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,839
10 percent of all ufo sightings reported

1262
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:15,599
do they pose a threat to national

1263
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:16,799
security

1264
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,359
are they just a funny looking cover for

1265
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,240
an airborne soviet presence

1266
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,400
even the possibility that these unknowns

1267
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,160
could be evidence of extraterrestrial

1268
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:28,480
visitation has been given serious

1269
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,040
attention in government circles

1270
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,599
while official interest in ufos has long

1271
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,240
been thought to be strictly the concern

1272
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:37,839
of the air force the bulk of whose

1273
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:40,400
records has been open to public view for

1274
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,160
nearly a decade

1275
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:44,160
the recently released papers on ufos

1276
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,680
indicate otherwise

1277
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:47,680
the department of the

1278
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:49,599
i don't know

1279
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,119
army navy state in

1280
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,680
department of defense maybe

1281
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:58,000
and the defense intelligence agency the

1282
00:58:02,630 --> 00:57:59,599
national security agency the joint

1283
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:02,640
chiefs of staff the fbi the cia and even

1284
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:04,880
the atomic energy commission produced

1285
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:07,359
ufo records over the years that one's

1286
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,870
many of these agencies still do and many

1287
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,880
of their documents remain classified but

1288
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,640
it is the cia that appears to have

1289
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,640
played a key role in the controversy and

1290
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:22,480
many and even responsible for the

1291
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,040
government's conduct in ufos

1292
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,359
uh investigations throughout

1293
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:29,920
the years

1294
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:31,280
that is interesting especially

1295
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,400
considering

1296
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,960
um what we just talked about with mr jim

1297
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,720
some even and john ramirez being from

1298
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:38,720
the cia coming out and saying this stuff

1299
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,880
is there any connection to it

1300
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:43,200
you know 50 years apart probably not

1301
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,000
but

1302
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:48,950
so i thought that article was was pretty

1303
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:52,559
interesting because it really touched on

1304
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,190
it's so reminiscent of now right

1305
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:00,880
so reminiscent

1306
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,680
files come out there's a controversy

1307
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,520
what are they

1308
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,680
the maelstrom

1309
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:09,839
event then in the new york times seems

1310
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:10,720
like

1311
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:12,799
um the the

1312
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:20,870
right in the gimbal in the navy videos

1313
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,430
and then we had washington dc in 52

1314
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,190
and that was a big story

1315
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:38,390
it's always something right

1316
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:41,270
now what can we take from that is it is

1317
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:42,799
there

1318
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,000
is the phenomenon

1319
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:48,160
making sure it stays

1320
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:51,280
available to everyone possibly as much

1321
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:57,670
you know if the phenomenon is as smart

1322
01:00:02,230 --> 00:59:59,920
as intelligent is a lot of us think it

1323
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,309
these would be purposeful events

1324
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:08,870
purposeful events to

1325
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,400
um you know

1326
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:13,200
be able to spread itself to as many

1327
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,359
people as possible

1328
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:17,440
by doing things that would be reported

1329
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:19,599
in the media

1330
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:25,750
because i don't think like a major thing

1331
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:27,280
like that would happen was something

1332
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:30,000
that intelligent without it having some

1333
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:31,760
sense of knowledge of

1334
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:34,720
everybody's gonna know about this

1335
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,599
right

1336
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:37,200
do you think it's possible that they

1337
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:45,750
maybe we went too far that time

1338
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,190
because we could be busted

1339
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,309
probably not

1340
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,069
you know it's interesting you know um

1341
01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:00,319
rally feels different right now feels

1342
01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:01,760
like something is coming or about to

1343
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:02,880
happen

1344
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:11,030
you know

1345
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:16,630
and

1346
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:21,839
that's getting worse it's probably going

1347
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:24,079
to be really bad and we have people that

1348
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:26,240
talk about that such as from the united

1349
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:29,200
nations or or biden or other people

1350
01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:30,559
that

1351
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:33,839
you know

1352
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:36,000
give to scriptures with just how bad

1353
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,000
that would be

1354
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:40,240
you know facts are that it's the biggest

1355
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:42,480
military buildup

1356
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:48,390
russia has wanted to take ukraine since

1357
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:51,119
they lost it from the soviet union

1358
01:01:59,589 --> 01:01:57,190
and so we have these big world things at

1359
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,069
you know as well as this disclosure kind

1360
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:04,240
of stuff and ufos

1361
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:05,680
being in the limelight and people

1362
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,150
the only thing i can relate it to is

1363
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:14,160
again history and i wasn't there but i

1364
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:20,710
you know during world war ii in in you

1365
01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:23,280
know ada of hitler or the vietnam war or

1366
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:24,319
you know

1367
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:25,440
other

1368
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,430
did people feel the same way you know

1369
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:33,039
people like you and i

1370
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:35,200
feel the same way that that something is

1371
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:39,910
and

1372
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:43,280
another way to look at that is

1373
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,720
just because

1374
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:46,640
you know the world doesn't didn't and

1375
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,029
and is that something coming

1376
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,880
you know 100 years from then does that

1377
01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:57,920
mean that

1378
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:00,640
them feeling that isn't accurate

1379
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:06,230
maybe it still is accurate just because

1380
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:08,240
that's something coming is

1381
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,440
you know

1382
01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:11,920
they feel it 1945 and it happens now or

1383
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:14,839
20 years from now you

1384
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,839
know i think it was reported recently

1385
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:19,760
and i i can't remember

1386
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:21,359
you know forgive me for this so just

1387
01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:23,119
take it for words don't take it to heart

1388
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:24,319
or anything like that but it was

1389
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:25,520
reported

1390
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:26,400
in

1391
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,960
like 10 years or so

1392
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:30,960
that the um

1393
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:33,760
the world's oceans the sea rise uh will

1394
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:36,640
rise about a foot

1395
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:44,150
there in and of itself you know

1396
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:46,799
if that actually happens i'm not i don't

1397
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:56,549
okay 42 d you mentioned you know a good

1398
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:58,480
talking point of

1399
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:00,000
you know people who

1400
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:02,000
to me when i read this i think of people

1401
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:02,880
who

1402
01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:05,839
um you know list dates

1403
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:08,079
in the future as as big and that could

1404
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,349
or years

1405
01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:21,430
the only thing i think of is

1406
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:24,390
i doubt they're right

1407
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:31,270
you know said something about the future

1408
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,359
and and have actually been accurate

1409
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:35,440
other than when it's said in a very

1410
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:37,920
vague way like a you know nostradamus

1411
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,280
type of thing or something like

1412
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:43,280
you know when it's vague like that like

1413
01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:46,720
a universal consciousness 2026 i guess

1414
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:48,400
you know

1415
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:51,599
there's no definable way to to or way to

1416
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:58,069
like

1417
01:05:02,390 --> 01:04:59,920
you could take any event that winds up

1418
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:02,400
happening in 2026 and make a story about

1419
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:04,480
how that raised people's you know

1420
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:07,119
conscious universal consciousness

1421
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:14,789
you know so

1422
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,680
and it's but the tricky thing is putting

1423
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:19,359
something out there in the future like

1424
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:23,039
that it allows you to um

1425
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,760
or it doesn't allow you but you know

1426
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:27,359
it gives people something to look

1427
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:32,150
you know it gives some people something

1428
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:34,240
tangible so

1429
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:36,400
there's an aspect of that

1430
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:39,280
that's taking advantage of people

1431
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:41,359
giving them a sense of comfort and a

1432
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:43,039
date and time to look forward to for

1433
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,799
something whatever it is

1434
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:46,319
whether it be an end or a different

1435
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,549
right

1436
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:52,720
so that in and of itself is always a

1437
01:06:03,270 --> 01:05:58,549
and then why say it why mention it

1438
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:05,029
you know to help people get in the right

1439
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:06,799
place

1440
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:09,440
before that time that you know

1441
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:16,549
right

1442
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:18,559
i don't know but that's that's just me

1443
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:20,160
and

1444
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:21,680
i could be completely

1445
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:23,920
you know have the wrong perspective

1446
01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:30,870
chris seems special i haven't met him

1447
01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:33,440
a lot of people say that

1448
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:34,640
um

1449
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:37,440
i have no reason to think he is not a

1450
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:40,319
cool person or a cool dude

1451
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:42,480
at all

1452
01:06:46,790 --> 01:06:43,440
so

1453
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:46,800
especially um

1454
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:48,400
[Music]

1455
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:50,640
you know when there's testimony given

1456
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,640
that

1457
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,839
you know

1458
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:55,520
i just need to meet somebody to know who

1459
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:01,510
you know i need to talk to them

1460
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:03,520
and converse communicate

1461
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:05,680
that's how i can get an actual feel for

1462
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:08,000
someone

1463
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:09,440
otherwise it can always be kind of hard

1464
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,599
to tell right

1465
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,599
it can be hard to tell we obviously know

1466
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:15,920
there's a lot to the bledsoe story that

1467
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,480
it you know on the face of it seems very

1468
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,559
legit contacts with

1469
01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:22,240
um

1470
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,119
uh jim simmons for instance

1471
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:27,280
nasa

1472
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,119
um

1473
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:31,119
a lot of there's a lot of stuff forgive

1474
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:33,200
me if i can't list at all right now i

1475
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:35,839
haven't done a whole bunch of

1476
01:07:40,829 --> 01:07:36,720
um

1477
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:42,789
story so

1478
01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:44,319
you know there's only so much time in

1479
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:46,559
the day

1480
01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:49,760
you know

1481
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:51,440
if he's watching

1482
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:55,990
that's rush

1483
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,920
s-r-a-a-s-c-h

1484
01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:59,920
witness citizen dot com i'd love to talk

1485
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,440
to you

1486
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:03,200
um

1487
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:05,039
for sure i think we can always learn

1488
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,960
something from each other

1489
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:08,559
that's for sure

1490
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:10,720
what whatever i do

1491
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:13,680
whatever role or you know part i play in

1492
01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:15,920
the whole scheme of things whether

1493
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:18,319
there be some sort of weird event or a

1494
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:21,679
ufo disclosure or nothing happens at all

1495
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:24,080
you know um

1496
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:25,199
my

1497
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:29,520
a couple reasons i just continue to try

1498
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:31,199
to find myself

1499
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,719
and do things i do

1500
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:35,279
in doing this i get to you know

1501
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:37,040
there's a sense of it that's therapy for

1502
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,560
me i get to talk

1503
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,560
and get a lot of thoughts that get stuck

1504
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:42,159
in my head out

1505
01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:44,000
you know that i wouldn't

1506
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:45,759
otherwise be able to

1507
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:47,279
talk to somebody about

1508
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,550
another thing that i do this for is you

1509
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,480
know it's clear that that some people

1510
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,960
connect to the things i say and enjoy

1511
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:58,080
the way i

1512
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:58,960
you know

1513
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,600
relay information and do my studies and

1514
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:03,040
everything and

1515
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,030
that

1516
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:09,359
you know so and it comes off uh like

1517
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,080
it's helpful to people

1518
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:14,960
and so that's good because whatever i do

1519
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:18,400
i want it to be positive and helpful

1520
01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:26,550
you know for sure

1521
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:28,149
so as long as i can keep doing those

1522
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:29,279
things

1523
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:31,040
connecting with people that seem to

1524
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:32,640
benefit from

1525
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:35,199
me doing this and

1526
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:36,480
you know continues to help me

1527
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:40,000
therapeutically and and all that

1528
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:41,520
i'm good

1529
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:47,199
so and i love that you guys are here and

1530
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:53,349
i guess there's a bomb

1531
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:56,000
maybe one day we'll throw like a a party

1532
01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:57,360
or something

1533
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:03,640
a pizza ufo party

1534
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:05,679
[Laughter]

1535
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,229
oh man i couldn't said that better

1536
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:12,480
myself

1537
01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:13,600
i am a

1538
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:15,440
freaking man

1539
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:16,960
don't make me prove it either because

1540
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,270
nah but you know

1541
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:27,840
i feel like um

1542
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:30,400
if you just try your best right just try

1543
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:32,640
your best with good intentions i think i

1544
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,040
always think it's the intent that makes

1545
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:38,320
a difference what is the person's intent

1546
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,320
maybe whatever they say comes off awful

1547
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,239
maybe the action

1548
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:44,400
uh you know that they put forth comes

1549
01:10:50,149 --> 01:10:46,400
off awful but what was their intent what

1550
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:51,430
you know that's

1551
01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:58,470
what if someone is out here uh you know

1552
01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:01,520
lying to you like a big you know face

1553
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:03,360
in the ufo world they're lying to you

1554
01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:05,679
right but what if they know something

1555
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:07,199
that you don't

1556
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:08,400
and

1557
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:10,960
they're trying to save

1558
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:15,280
you know the world from it and it's evil

1559
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:16,320
you know

1560
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,390
maybe they could have did it better but

1561
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:22,800
their intent was to spare you

1562
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:26,640
real harm you know something like that

1563
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,390
and then people can work on their

1564
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,080
actions and how to do things more

1565
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:35,840
professionally better

1566
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:40,630
but as long as their intent is is in the

1567
01:11:42,570 --> 01:11:42,320
right place

1568
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:42,580
um

1569
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,640
[Music]

1570
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:47,120
that goes

1571
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:48,640
so far with me

1572
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:51,040
so far

1573
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:55,440
super sticker man i love super stickers

1574
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,910
but you know it's kind of stupid why do

1575
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:01,120
they call me super sticker because i

1576
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:06,830
can't stick it to jack

1577
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:08,470
they

1578
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:11,600
thanks k42 d i appreciate you

1579
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,679
all right i'm gonna get out of here

1580
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:16,640
um eat some food

1581
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,560
hang out with my dogs maybe take a nap

1582
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:20,560
you know that kind of stuff

1583
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:26,790
um

1584
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,679
you know

1585
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:30,000
i prefer to have something

1586
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:39,270
shelly montgomery thank you uh michael

1587
01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:41,840
appreciate you cheers brother

1588
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:45,360
um again k42d thanks for that

1589
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:48,000
jenny novak thank you so much

1590
01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:55,590
thank you for being here appreciate you

1591
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:02,390
uh sunsaver

1592
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:04,080
um

1593
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,520
lara

1594
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,520
everybody laura v

1595
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:09,840
josh

1596
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:16,390
you guys are always such good so cool in

1597
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,320
the chat i love how you guys conduct

1598
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:20,159
your business in the chat

1599
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:27,669
um can't say that name but you

1600
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:30,320
kristoff is that right

1601
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,199
i'm a moto interesting i just mentioned

1602
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:35,679
that name the other day

1603
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,960
i had to do with uh ecker mitchell

1604
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,560
that was yesterday you guys remember

1605
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:45,669
um boudicca

1606
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:47,840
lou the flu just released this

1607
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:49,840
screenshot just one

1608
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,450
um

1609
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:57,920
[Music]

1610
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,000
everybody else hopefully i'm not missing

1611
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,719
anyone lord bass what's up

1612
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:04,400
bill barnum

1613
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,800
awesome disclosure team vinnie steve k

1614
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:11,600
um my diesel girl what's up find me on

1615
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,440
twitter find me on twitter yo um

1616
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:17,360
yeah so like the video subscribe if you

1617
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:18,320
haven't

1618
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:20,960
follow me on the tweeter

1619
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:22,400
you can always go to my website check

1620
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:23,679
out the documents that we went over

1621
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:30,229
and get in touch with uh me through

1622
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,199
email

1623
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,199
if you want uh sorry we didn't do the

1624
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:35,440
the ufo videos today it's just really

1625
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:36,880
hard to find ones that are just

1626
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:38,480
incredibly stupid

1627
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:46,390
um maybe i could

1628
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:50,000
ah crap no i can't

1629
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,110
there's one video i wanted to show

1630
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:02,870
i don't think

1631
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:04,550
for whatever reason the

1632
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,719
computer here

1633
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:08,560
isn't letting me

1634
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:11,760
show it

1635
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,320
but i think i still probably could but

1636
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:16,400
it's not going to have sound yeah looks

1637
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:17,840
like it can

1638
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,520
but it's not going to have sound

1639
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:21,440
so this is

1640
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:25,199
an interesting sighting that i had

1641
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:27,280
so

1642
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:28,400
you know

1643
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:35,270
lanterns

1644
01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:40,239
there is no wind

1645
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:42,719
the second is they when they turn white

1646
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:45,440
they rise up

1647
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,159
and if it goes from amber to white that

1648
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:50,800
would mean that the flame is out and it

1649
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,199
would fall down instead of rising up so

1650
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:57,120
take a look at it i wish i'd give you

1651
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:58,320
the sound

1652
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:59,280
um

1653
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,960
i'll upload it to like youtube or

1654
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,320
something but for now you can just look

1655
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:27,270
and i'll fast forward

1656
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:29,110
whoops

1657
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:53,110
come on over buddy

1658
01:16:53,120 --> 01:17:03,669
it's kind of a crummy picture

1659
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:06,149
so you know the things you missed my my

1660
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,600
wife's in here she saw him on her way

1661
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,960
home and she texted me to come outside

1662
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:10,719
to check it out which is interesting

1663
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,640
because she's not really into this stuff

1664
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:14,320
and you can you know if there's a better

1665
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:15,840
picture you'd notice that it was white

1666
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,080
and went up in the clouds

1667
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:20,000
and here's this one is is pretty cool

1668
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,510
um

1669
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,440
yeah so so they're interesting they're

1670
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:33,679
relatively close like you see the tree

1671
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:36,000
line there up top and that's

1672
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:38,000
actually more or less

1673
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,030
and yeah they wind up um

1674
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:49,280
continuing to go and

1675
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:52,000
going up in the clouds and taking off

1676
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:54,880
and she saw like four of them i guess

1677
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:01,270
there weren't planes there was no noise

1678
01:18:04,170 --> 01:18:03,840
it's no wind

1679
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:04,180
um

1680
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:05,440
[Music]

1681
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,719
yeah it's weird and you can see in the

1682
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:08,400
beginning of the video there it is it's

1683
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:09,679
white

1684
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,110
yeah i don't know

1685
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:24,390
in the beginning of the video you can

1686
01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:27,440
see that there's a couple that didn't

1687
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:30,320
come over like that but that were

1688
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:33,280
white they were a little higher up

1689
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,600
so yeah

1690
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:37,520
um

1691
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,400
where was it flying it was let's see if

1692
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,480
it was

1693
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:47,110
that was west

1694
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:55,669
apparently

1695
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:56,630
so

1696
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:59,520
um how'd i feel um

1697
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:01,520
i felt

1698
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,000
um kind of amazed is what it was like

1699
01:19:08,229 --> 01:19:06,239
the video unfortunately just puts you in

1700
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:08,239
this conundrum where you know people are

1701
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,520
just gonna

1702
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:12,080
not really think much of it because it

1703
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:13,760
is what it is but

1704
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:16,560
uh i was there and it was um

1705
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:18,320
everything was a lot more defined and

1706
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,960
pretty intense and i felt

1707
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:23,199
um amazed

1708
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,000
at what we were seeing

1709
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:31,110
you know at one point i said come on

1710
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:33,040
over buddy

1711
01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:34,480
when it was like over her head and it

1712
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:35,600
turned white

1713
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:38,239
at that point um so i wasn't like scared

1714
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:43,430
this is interesting uh the wind usually

1715
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:46,320
blows from west to east in the midwest

1716
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,760
so

1717
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:49,120
uh

1718
01:19:55,350 --> 01:19:50,480
that's true

1719
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,350
weird i have a lot of uh

1720
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:02,310
cemeteries around the house sometimes i

1721
01:20:06,130 --> 01:20:03,440
think maybe that has something to do

1722
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:06,140
with it and this was um like um

1723
01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:07,600
[Music]

1724
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:09,920
maybe a two months or something after

1725
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:12,880
like my main experience that i had

1726
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:14,080
um

1727
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:15,679
you know i hear this a lot actually

1728
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:16,960
about people

1729
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:19,679
have experiences where their their wife

1730
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:21,360
or loved one is

1731
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:24,239
you know sees it too or whatever

1732
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:25,280
and i always find that pretty

1733
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:30,229
um because

1734
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:32,239
it gives you this sense of like you're

1735
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,280
not completely alone in this almost like

1736
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:37,600
i can talk to her about it because she's

1737
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:39,920
seen something weird as well

1738
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:42,239
now it hasn't completely consumed her

1739
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:46,400
like my first uh you know thing did

1740
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:53,510
um but i think that helps a lot

1741
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:55,920
and interestingly so i don't remember

1742
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:57,920
when maybe it's a week or two there's

1743
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,880
like this

1744
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:00,400
few couple months where i just saw a

1745
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,080
bunch of crazy stuff

1746
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:04,480
so a couple weeks before this i'm in the

1747
01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:06,080
backyard smoking a cigarette looking

1748
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:08,000
towards um like

1749
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:11,199
there's like a school maybe a city block

1750
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:13,120
away

1751
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:15,440
and i'm looking up in this guy and i see

1752
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,560
something and but it's blinking and

1753
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:20,080
i don't really think much of it i

1754
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:22,880
actually was gonna record it but decided

1755
01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:24,639
that it looked exactly like a like a

1756
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:26,840
helicopter

1757
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:34,070
and out comes from the sky something

1758
01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:35,760
with the color of something like that we

1759
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,040
just saw

1760
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:39,520
and it comes from the sky and as it's

1761
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:40,800
getting to the ground it's getting

1762
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:42,960
bigger and bigger and bigger and it

1763
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:45,679
shoots out of the sky like as fast as a

1764
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:48,080
freaking bullet and it looked like a

1765
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,880
bullet with this orange glow around it

1766
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,320
and it gets bigger and bigger and goes

1767
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:54,560
super fast until it gets to where the

1768
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,480
ground would be and it's just gone

1769
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:00,239
you know

1770
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:01,520
and the only thing i was thinking is

1771
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,080
like maybe a flare

1772
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:06,239
like that wasn't a helicopter and they

1773
01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:07,679
shot up flares

1774
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:08,480
that

1775
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:12,080
towards the ground i don't know

1776
01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:13,840
maybe but

1777
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:16,239
you know and then this happens

1778
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,760
you know in the video with the sound i'm

1779
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:19,520
like that's like the thing i saw the

1780
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:21,520
other day that's what i'm describing is

1781
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:25,040
is you know what i just told you

1782
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:27,040
so it's weird

1783
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:28,719
weird stuff another thing i saw around

1784
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:30,159
this time was

1785
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:31,360
um

1786
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:33,440
it didn't come in super clear but it was

1787
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:35,040
right went right over my head it was in

1788
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:37,600
the shape of like a figure eight

1789
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,159
i was about like this big

1790
01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:42,239
just one over my head

1791
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:44,080
and it seemed like the

1792
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:45,280
like the eight

1793
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:47,360
infinity sections were like spinning

1794
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:48,960
counter to each other i guess i should

1795
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:50,239
say

1796
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:51,679
i don't know but that was pretty

1797
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:54,000
interesting that just went right over me

1798
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:54,800
um

1799
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:57,040
seemed rather rather close to

1800
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:58,480
to me

1801
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:03,830
and um the other one i have a video of

1802
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:06,719
i'll show you next time is

1803
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:07,760
a bunch of

1804
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:11,040
white orbs or dots popping out of

1805
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:12,080
a cloud

1806
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:13,920
one after the other about five or six of

1807
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:15,679
them

1808
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:18,880
so it's pretty interesting too

1809
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:21,280
and all that stuff it started with like

1810
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:24,719
my means my main exciting thing

1811
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:25,520
and

1812
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:33,360
anything like that stuff so sometimes i

1813
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:36,400
wonder what it was about that time

1814
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:38,159
the initial sighting i had spurred me to

1815
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,520
like

1816
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:41,920
write songs and music about it

1817
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:43,679
sometimes even trying to communicate

1818
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:46,400
with whatever it might have been

1819
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:50,239
maybe that spawned some of the activity

1820
01:23:56,629 --> 01:23:54,550
um but i've definitely written songs

1821
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,639
since and i haven't received that kind

1822
01:23:58,870 --> 01:23:57,840
of

1823
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,880
um

1824
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:59,760
you know

1825
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:01,520
those kind of visuals since so i don't

1826
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:03,679
know

1827
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:06,480
talking a lot

1828
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:07,520
but

1829
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:13,510
it's just like when you see that kind of

1830
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:14,880
stuff what are you supposed to make of

1831
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:15,679
it

1832
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,760
just weird and i don't know what any of

1833
01:24:23,189 --> 01:24:21,440
it is you know

1834
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:23,199
and they were also different too like

1835
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:29,270
you know it it wasn't connected to

1836
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:32,080
anything like uh like it could have been

1837
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:33,679
like a drone

1838
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:35,840
with uh

1839
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,000
propellers a small drone wasn't over my

1840
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:39,440
head it wasn't connected it was like

1841
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,629
of a figure eight or infinity sign this

1842
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:46,639
is weird

1843
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:48,239
yeah could have been that

1844
01:24:53,360 --> 01:25:00,070
could be a good point there

1845
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:01,590
seems to happen

1846
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:03,040
the first time when people have an

1847
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,679
extreme negative experience

1848
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:07,840
yeah and

1849
01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:10,000
you know i don't know that

1850
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:11,760
it was a negative experience my first

1851
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:16,390
it was surrounding like what was the

1852
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:18,159
interpersonal kind of negative

1853
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:23,910
you know growth came out of that as well

1854
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:27,840
you know it wasn't just um

1855
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,760
you know anything bad that happened was

1856
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:31,440
repaired

1857
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:37,910
and i learned a lot about myself

1858
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:39,120
so i don't know

1859
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:47,669
yeah right

1860
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:49,920
oh right right right right yeah

1861
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,790
yeah

1862
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:56,639
interesting

1863
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,360
i've heard from other people too that um

1864
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:01,440
other bowlers

1865
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:03,199
are experiencers so maybe it's something

1866
01:26:07,030 --> 01:26:04,960
with bowlers

1867
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:07,040
this phenomenon

1868
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,600
like someone who can shoot a pretty

1869
01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:11,520
slick strike

1870
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:13,280
knock down 10 pins

1871
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:14,320
you know

1872
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:20,709
so

1873
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:25,990
uh

1874
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:30,159
pretty personal for her and and she's

1875
01:26:34,830 --> 01:26:32,480
not about uh any of this stuff for

1876
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,840
putting herself out there

1877
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:36,480
so

1878
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:38,880
i appreciate it

1879
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:41,840
hope you guys have a great rest of the

1880
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:47,350
enjoy it enjoy your weekend um

1881
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,480
you're not going to see me tomorrow

1882
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,880
tomorrow i have a lot of stuff to do

1883
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:53,040
like laundry

1884
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:55,040
and cleaning

1885
01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:59,040
and all that fun stuff so

1886
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:00,880
i won't be doing that

1887
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,390
i appreciate it

1888
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:10,070
and i'll give you plenty of time to

1889
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:11,120
catch up

1890
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:13,120
if you haven't seen uh the rest of the

1891
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:15,040
week's stuff or

1892
01:27:23,190 --> 01:27:19,120
take a break from my ass all right